tv The Intelligence Report With Trish Regan FOX Business August 15, 2016 2:00pm-3:01pm EDT
charles: very busy day acoast to coast, hillary clinton in the meantime touting her economic plan with vp, vice president biden in the battleground state of pennsylvania. donald trump looking at the podium, he's going to lay out his way to beat isis. and trish regan is going to take you through it. >> we're going to have it. thank you so much, charles. breaking this hour, donald trump will be delivering a major speech on fighting terrorism that's happening any minute from now in youngstown -- forgive me. ohio. you're looking at a live picture there of the podium that he is going to take. i am trish regan, welcome, everyone, to the intelligence report. he'll be laying out his plan on how to defeat isis, how to defeat terrorism both here and broad. a campaign official telling us that unlike our current administration, donald trump are name our enemies, radical islam and like president reagan did during the cold war, trump will declare war on a ideology. trump is also if we could to make it very clear that the problems are not with muslims,
but with terrorists. and he's going to call on moderate arabs to fight and form coalitions. but what we haven't heard yet is what will u.s. forces play in all of this. joining me right now general bob scales. general scales, good to see you. the author of the soon to be released book scales on war. the future of america's military at risk. good to have you here today. what is it that donald trump needs to do? >> well, he needs to do three things. the first thing i think you mentioned in the lead in is he's got to identify the enemy. not only identify the enemy, but tear away all the miss perceptions about isis and lay its ideology and its agenda raw. he's got to talk about the damage they're doing to the world. he has to talk about this being a generational war and what the u.s. role needs to be in fighting it. the second thing he needs to do, i think most importantly he's got to tie his immigration policy to national security.
he hasn't done that yet. and if he can perhaps soften the edges of immigration and show the american people how it fits very precisely into his war on terror, that would be a huge benefit. and i think you mentioned the third one. most importantly our viewers should watch this carefully. he's going to talk about a new coalition. a coalition of the infected nations. not nato, not an organization in the middle east. but together all the nations middle eastern nations, the only question i have that's perhaps unanswered is will he define what america's role is in this? you can't lead a coalition unless you have skin in the game and is mr. trump willing to commit more forces to build a more powerful coalition with greater -- >> but when we talk about this coalition, will that include potentially russia? they're fighting isis as are
we. >> absolutely. remember. who's the enemy here, trish? it's isis. and if there are coalitions of the willing. if the russians arelying to play by our game, if the russians are willing to commit themselves to the obstruction of islamic terrorism in their own country, perhaps they'll be a willing partner. but as you heard me say on the news show before, i am very, very skeptical of mr. putin's intentions, and i seriously doubt whether there will be a member of the coalition. >> let's talk about some of these things you mentioned. talk about policy as it relates to national security. you know what the left is going to say when they hear this, general. he's going after muslims, he's being discriminatory. how should we respond to that criticism? >> well, first of all, i think he's going to say something to the effect that this is about terrorism, not about the islamic religion. but, look, come on. anyone who has seen the news lately, trish. anyone who has seen what happened in france and belgium and germany and great britain to include our own country,
clearly mentally makes the connection between islamism and terrorism, and the threat to the west. i mean it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make that linkage. and then therefore it becomes a pipeline, a fifth column that isis can use to infiltrate any country in the west. >> and absolutely reducing to acknowledge that, general. she's talking about bringing 65,000 syrians to the country. obama just wants 10,000. so he pails in comparison to her. she has this message stronger together inclusiveness, and we're now going to hear a message that's perhaps more of a reality check. >> well, don't listen to me, trish. listen to isis. it's isis lead ones that are broadcasting the success they've had in the west and their intentional effort, their strategy, their ideology to include isis infiltrators moving into the west. and they've actually said they're going to use the stream as a means of sort of
pipeline if you will for getting immigrants into our country. >> and we know they succeeded in doing that. >> yes. they have. >> not specifically when they came to san bernardino but the woman, the widow there, one of the terrorists there who participated in that. anyway thank you so much, general. good to have you here, general scales. we are awaiting of course, everyone, donald trump who is going to be delivering a major speech on how to defeat isis. how to defeat radical islam once and foreall. trump is expected to prepare a lot of ideas, some you just heard from general scales. one might be a ban on issuing visas from people who come from countries with heavy terrorist footprints. seems like a no-brainer. a new ideology test that would question people coming to the united states on their support of american values, challenge with that of course is people can tell you anything you want to hear. so will these proposals help us defeat radical islam? joining me rightow fox news
analyst kt mcfarland and james. good to have both of you guys here on such a an important day. ambassador, starting with you. you heard what general scales said. how would you add to that? what would you want to hear from donald trump today? >> i think this is not a bad list. i think there are problems that he needs to get sorted out, but he has big ideas right. and one thing he seems to be doing with respect to syria and the ideology of isis and so forth is something that's not real far from what we did during the cold war with respect to the soviet union. if you're a citizen of the soviet union in 1981, you couldn't just go down and get a tourist visa and fly to the united states. you had some hurdles to go through. and you also had hurdles to go through if you wanted to emigrate, big ones. there's nothing wrong with our having particular requirements for certain parts of the world or for people from certain countries. now, you can't -- i don't
think, do it with religions. you can't say you've got to go through special hoops if you're a muslim. we don't want to do that and i think serious constitutional problems. but with respect to geography, with respect to organizations that you've chosen to join, et cetera, i think that could be done, and it could -- it has some real parallels to what we did in the cold war. liz: organizations that you have chosen to join because that may be critical in all of this. because i think about the brussels bombers, for example, or what we saw in france. many of these people are being raised, are born in europe, and they're being raised in these communities that promote islamic extremism, and they have adapted to that ideology as we could say. so can you therefore say all right. since you belonged to this, you know, particular organization, unfortunately, it may often be -- >> look at what we did during the cold war. we first tried to ban the communist party and the
supreme court knocked that out. so then we went back and basically we made it really complicated and difficult for anybody who was a communist or had been in a communist organization overseas to come to the united states. it was really -- they had to file all sorts of papers, they had to do this, they had to do that. and we made it really tough on them. after a while, they kind of got so we could figure out how to deal with this, consistent with our constitution and the we we run things. but to also consistent with common sense. and i think that is a step that the trump speech is headed toward. we'll have to see when we see the text editor. trish: we're talking about common sense here. this is rather crazy when you think about it, kt, because you have hillary clinton running for president, and i think most would agree. i mean the 65,000 immigrants from syria coming here when our own administration -- obama's own administration can't even -- can't even promise us that they can be
properly vetted seems to lack common sense. >> yeah. >> yeah. as is political correctness. what i'm looking for today is we have spent 15 years trying to defeat radical islam, and it's now bigger in more places more lethal and more violent. so what can he do? can take all the threats he's been talking about, and pulls them together in one cohesive strategic plan? in other words, going after radical islam, not just militarily but ideology, economical, diplomatically, politically, pull together a coalition of all the countries threatened by radical islam and at the same time talk about the homeland. because the threat is no longer just over there. it is now here. trish: so what would that mean to our allies such as saudi arabia? >> i think you talk to saudi arabia and say are you going to help us go after radical islam? you know that you have people in the royal family, wealthy saudis who are supporting radical islam. you get ahold of that, and you either get rid of that and deal with that --
>> do we not? we have leverage. >> we have a lot of leverage with all of these countries. >> even more with fracking. trish: and that's another component to all of this. >> absolutely. trish: she's very antidrilling and you think about the need for us to be -- >> energy i want. trish: and how correlated with being less dependent on the middle east, that really is, ambassador. >> absolutely. two things. trish: and, by the way, i should point out there's rudy giuliani, one of his big supporters there traveling with him to ohio, he is talking to the crowd of donald trump, but continue on. >> i was going to say one of the things is fracking. but another is gas to liquids so that we can take carbon dioxide, turn them into other fuels for automobiles. and begin to compete with oil with using other substances.
once we have taken a good step down that road, you have a very unhappy russia, you have a very unhappy venezuela, you have a very unhappy iran. things begin to change geopolitically in a huge way. trish: and we need the independence and be able to go out there and say, listen, this is serious enough that you either clean up your act and play ball or else. i think about, for example, even the visa waiver program we have with europe. i mean we have a lot of ability to travel very freely right now, obviously, and we want to preserve that. however, how do we maintain that if europe, for example, is not able to figure out its own terrorist amongst? and you've talked about this a lot, kt, it's very difficult right now with more than a million migrants having gone into germany in the last -- >> europe should be the template and how to do it because they've had open borders, multiculturism and cut back on their intelligence, national security, and their military. and what have we seen? we now see europe, which can't
really get in front of their security problems where they have migration problems, they have security problems, and it's going to take them a -- trish: and not to mention the economic problems, which they're already struggling with, but you have the cost bringing all of these people in that can't be assimilated into society. but, again, back to the danger of isis spreading worldwide through the freedom to travel. and do we need to change some of these policies to put more prsure- not just on the saudis. not just on the middle eastern countries. but, in fact, also on europe, ambassador. >> the thing i would really like to see them do is take a step back to the decision they made 30, 40 years ago to make the primary reason why you can emigrate to the united states if you have relatives here already. that shouldn't be it. it ought to be your technical confidence. it ought to be your ability to be a systems engineer in silicon valley. it ought -- as long as people have to come here, want to come here, and they come based on the merits of what they can
do as who they're related to third, fourth, and fifth and six cousins, we can begin to build the spirit of immigration in this country, which is a secret sauce. trish: you're talking about a fundamental change really in immigration policy. >> yeah. trish: it's needed. >> i think so. >> but it's a privilege to come to the united states. you don't have an automatic right to come to the united states. and when trump says things, well, "we need to be able to vet people" you have to sign up to what we believe in if you want to become an american. to me, that is just common sense. and the whole multiculturism effort of creating parallel societies that they've had in europe have not worked. and what is our secret sauce when you say secret sauce? it's that we assimilate. we're the land of opportunity. why are we throwing away our american? >> and while we're at it, maybe we can final with this trump speech do a death blow to critical correctness -- to political correctness.
trish: say that again. >> a death blow to critical correctness. this idea that you can't say radical islam because somebody might get upset is one of the worst things that the administration has done. it makes it really hard to talk about a problem if you seem to be too scared to address it. trish: yeah. >> and that's what the administration has communicated. we're too frightened to address this. somebody might -- trish: and gosh darnit if you're a muslim in america right now you should be saying we have to get ahold of this because if we do not, we face really severe consequences. >> that's a really important point you make made. if we do this be the political correctness stuff if we don't offend people but yet the muslim community, a member of them are saying please come and call it out because we want to be on your side of this. we're not on the side of the terrorists. we're americans, and we need to go together to solve this problem. >> i knew slightly the late who was president of indonesia.
what an amazing man. he and his whole tradition in indonesia speak out for religious freedom. he is -- he was just superb. and his cultural tradition. there is no reason we want to keep indonesian muslims out from the united states. they are the leaders in many cases of moving toward a real moderate muslim position and one that is fair with other religions and the rest. we can do a lot with variety of religion. trish: let me ask you a proven question. we talk about extreme islam being an ideology, much like communism, kt. >> uh-huh. trish: then, in fact, are we somehow tainting a religion? i mean do you run the risk that people are going to say that is unconstitutional? or that is religious discrimination? but let's not forget, you know, in islam, sharia law is the be all end all.
so how do you if you fundamentally believe in this accept the united states of america for what it is? >> it's at the heart of things from what comes out of the reagan desert. it's moved over to southeast asia. and the largest muslim country in the world, indonesia does not practice that. trish: most people would say that's part of it; right? sharia law and there's no way sharia law can fit in the united states. so how do you reform. >> well, yeah, that's what this is all about. it's the only religion that has not reformed. at the beginning of the bush administration they didn't say we don't want to have the word radical or islam in the same sentence because we don't want to alienate 2 billion people. the obama administration has gone in the same direction. political correctness on steroids.
and with the people in the world, the pope of islam, presidency of egypt. others have come out and said, look, it is a religion. it is part of our religion, but it's a bad part of our religion, and we need reform, and we're going to go in that direction. so somehow the religion saying no. no. it's not about islam -- trish: it is. it's part of islam, and you've got to fix it. >> you've got to fix it. we've been -- trish: don't go anywhere. i want to bring into the conversation with all of us, republican strategist john thomas and fox contributor leslie marble. good to see you guys. we have been watching donald trump outline -- i would argue some strong policies, certainly when it comes to the economy and his plans for lower taxes and less regulation are by most standard very, very, very strong signals for our economy going forward. nonetheless that's not what we've been talking about recently, unfortunately, he
keeps stepping in it with a variety of different topics. is this a chance, an opportunity for him to really reset the tone? because this, again, is an issue that americans care so much about. your thoughts. >> trish, this could be trump's big moment. every campaign, every winning campaign is fundamentally about us versus them. and if donald trump is able to refocus the american electorate to think that it is about america coming together for to fight radical islam terrorists and end them and kill them once and for all, at the same time driving a contrast over the last eight years and by extension hillary clinton's legacy over what we've been doing isn't working. and her plans going forward are the same that we've been doing. trish: in other words, this election should be a referendum on the failed policies of this past administration and of course
the clintons. leslie, one would have thought hillary clinton would be a pretty easy candidate to beat. her negatives are extremely high. but as you have cautioned all along, he has the ability to get himself a little bit off track. is there enough time? can he change things beginning today? >> no. in my opinion, no. the damage is done. a ban is not vetting. he has said so much negative rhetoric that has affected his reputation throughout the world that i hear from friends of mine that live in dubai that they are taking down trump billboards, because he's building many buildings in that nation and a lot of muslims offended by the words he has said don't want to work there. the bottom line is we need an international coalition to beat this enemy. and even though he wants to portray us and the president especially as having failed in our mission, that is not what u.s. command says, and that is not what the iraqi forces say.
people say look for an october surprise, and they think they're going to take mosul from isis, they've lost over 50% of the ground from iraq, and their finances have weakened. that also doesot address the radical through the internet. so he can talk about nuking isis and the strong arm with isis, but the reality is a lot of the damage that has been done, and i don't think that the international community is going to say, oh, your bad, you didn't mean that, let's move forward together. trish: kt. >> talking about the central command? okay. we already found out that, in fact, "the intelligence report" coming out in the central command were skewed. that the political leadership told the intelligence professionals don't say it that way. minimize the threat. so i'm really not sure that we can claim that this has been a great success against radical islam. just the opposite. trish: let me ask the ambassador about the internet component to all of this as leslie highlights. i mean social media throughout the last eight years has also exploded.
so as much as we want to blame the obama administration, and they deserve a lot of blame for the up rise of isis, we can also blame social media. and perhaps the president for not going after social media more intensively. how do we start to change that? because if we don't, the concern is this ideology just continues to spread. >> it's a huge issue. the late wonderful wolf steader wrote a piece in the wall street journal back in the mid-80s about -- called the facts will make you free, fax. and what he meant is they had a terrible time of keeping up with the fax messages and the mbination of the cia getting fax machines to the polls had a big impact on the end of the cold war. the same thing had happened centuries before with the printing press and gutenberg's bible. if it weren't for the printing press, there would still be a
few pages on the wall of the cathedral for 500 years. i think technology changes things radically. and particularly related to communications and related to something like what has happened with metadata and with facebook and all of that. we're just in a completely different world in terms of keeping up with what's going on, utilizing the technology, keeping the technology from being used against us. it's as if -- it's as if we had fought without -- with bows and arrows for years and somebody invented gun power. and now we're saying how do you use that? trish: just to point out to the viewer, mike pence there on the stage addressing the crowd in ohio. the head of donald trump's big speech. we're waiting on him right now, he'll be talking about how we defeat isis, a big moment for his foreign policy.am here alongside ambassr
james kt mcfarland, and we have our political fanals with us as well, john thomas, and leslie marshal. stale on the social media aspect of this, because i think about world war ii and how we were finally able to together with the allies crack enigma; right? the code? and that was critical in terms of us winning. and now, now days, you've got facebook and twitter and other social media sites that are enabling these jihaddists to communicate in a code. >> yeah. trish: do we need to intervene there and say, look, guys, you're on our side or theirs? >> i don't understand how there's a bunch of people in the yemen desert who are somehow outsmarting us. but people who created social media like you said facebook, twitter, and everything else, and somehow there's a handful of these people who are, like, so smart and so clever that they're outsmarting us on social media, and they're recruiting deep within the homeland of the united states. they're spreading the message
without europe. i don't get it. i think whoever the next president is, go to silicon valley and say we're either in this together, or you're on the other side of this. >> just north of washington at fort meade in the national security agency is the greatest collection of crafty hackers in the world, and we're not using them. web of to use them to disrupt russia, isis, and cause any kinds of trouble for everybody who has been causing trouble for us. the chinese stealing our technology. we need to cause trouble for them and then turn up the game by a factor of 100 or so and not -- and this is very hard for the obama administration -- not say a damn word. [laughter] not -- trish: spoken by an excia. you know, john thomas, is this in part why silicon valley is so resistant to donald trump? because he might actually demand more from the likes of these tech companies?
>> i mean i think that's, first of all, tech companies definitely skew far to the left. i think they're just not ideologically in line with donald trump. but that is right. donald trump doesn't want to let the terrorists use our own technology against us. and let me say, the fact that hillary clinton let's go back to this e-mail scandal. the fact that she and her team thought that it was okay. and secure to use a private e-mail server that we -- that the fbi director comey was very likely hacked, we want her in the oval office with things that are of the highest classification level? i think she's disqualified herself as to dealing with terrorist threat. trish: ambassador, your thoughts? >> bill casey when was director of central intelligence came up with a wonderful scheme. the soviets were stealing technology from us that were related to in particular the natural gas pipeline. trish: uh-huh. >> instead of stopping it, casey figured out how to use some of the people at the cia
to fiddle around with the technology and let the soviets steal it and then some years, two or three years later, the pipeline in the soviet union started to explode. boom, boom, boom. why? because they had stole what we put together for them to steal. trish: so we're three steps ahead; right? >> yeah. exactly. trish: and right now we're -- i don't know three steps behind. >> we're building fences. we're building walls. we're behaving as if we were hundreds of years out of date. you've got to go on the offense. >> look, we're all of our allies, they build cyber calls. let their own people deal with it. >> churchill loves to quote that in war -- and we're at war. in war, truth is so important, it must always be protected by a bodyguard of lies. [laughter] that's what we've got to do.
trish: leslie marshal, you know, we've heard a lot of great ideas here from the panel today, it's not clear that hillary clinton is capable of defeating isis because she won't even address it for what it is. she won't call this radical jihadism. she won't call it radical islam. she's being more concerned with being politically correct and more concerned with being more syrians here to this country than perhaps we can really properly vet. how does she get around that? because i think that's a political message that's going to be dangerous for her. >> i don't think what we call it really matters, and i know people really hung up on that. hillary clinton has actually, in fact, just a couple of months ago referred to it as radical jihad. she has said radical islam. and isis has -- did not, you know -- there wasn't a big bolt of lightning that came down from the sky and struck them dead. with regard to this group what we're also not considering is -- trish: i'm going to have to
jump in, leslie, because donald trump has taken to the stage. let's listen, everyone. his spch on how to defeat isis right now. >> it's great to be with you this afternoon. and today, we begin a conversation about how to make america safe again. in the 20th century, the united states has defeated fascism, nasiasm, and communism. now a different threat faces our world. radical islamic terrorism. this summer, there's been an isis attack launched outside the war zones of the middle east. hard to believe every 84 hours. here in america, we have seen one brutal attack after another. 13 were murdered and 38
wounded in the assault on fort hood. the boston marathon bombing wounded and maimed 264 people and ultimately left five dead, including two of our great police officers. in chattanooga, tennessee, five unarmed marines unbelievable people, by the way, were shot and killed at a military recruiting center. last december, 14 innocent americans were gunned down at an office party in san bernardino. another 22 were very gravely injured. in june, 49 americans were executed at the pulse nightclub in orlando. another 53 were badly injured. it was the worst mass shooting in our history. and the attack by far the
worst on the lgbtq community. and i'll tell you what. we can never, ever allow this to happen again. [applause] in europe -- thank you. in europe, we have seen the same carnage and bloodshed inflicted upon our closest allies. in january of 2015, a french newspaper charlie hebdo was attacked for releasing cartoons of muhammad. 12 attacked police officers and days later four were murdered in a jewish. in november of 2015, terrorists went to a shooting rampage in paris that
slaughtered 130 people and wounded another 368 people. some in very, very bad shape today. france is suffering gravely and the tourism industry is being massively affected in the most harsh way. this march of this year terrorists detonated a bomb in brussels airport killing 42 and injuring 300 people. this july in south of france a terrorist turned his truck into an incident of mass murder, plowing down and killing 85 men, women, and children and wounding 308 people. terrible. among the dead were two americans, a texas father, and
his 11-year-o s. a few weeks ago in germany, a refugee armed with an axe wounded five people in a gruesome train attack. only days ago, an isis killer invaded a christian church in normandie, france, forced an 85-year-old priest to his knees. a priest who was beloved. who was beloved. before can you get his throat and just unthinkable other things. overseas isis has carried out an absolute atrocity one after another. children slaughtered, girls sold into slavery, men and women burned alive, crucifixions, beheadings, and drowns, ethnic parties targeted for mass execution,
holy sites desecrated, christians driven from their homes, and hunted for extermination, isis is holding what's called nation of across in a absolute and total genocide. we cannot let this evil continue. [cheers and applause] thank you nor can we let the hateful ideology of radical islam -- it's oppression of women, gays, children, and nonbelievee allowed to reside or spread within our own conditions. [applause]
we will defeat radical islam terrorism just as we have defeated every threat we faced at every age and before. but we will not -- we will not remember this defeated with closed eyes or silenced voices. we have a president that doesn't want to say the words. anyone who cannot name our enemy is not fit to lead our country. [applause] anyone who cannot condemn the hatred, oppression of violence of radical islam, lacks the moral clarity to serve as our president. [applause] the rise of isis is the direct result of policy decisions made by president obama and
secretary of state clinton. let's look back at the middle east at the very beginning of 2009 before the obama clinton administration took over. libya was stable. syria was under control. egypt was ruled by a secular president and an ally of the united states. iraq was experiencing a reduction in violence. the group that would become what we now call isis was close to being extinguished. iran was being choked off by economic sanctions. fast-forward to today. what we have -- and think of this -- and the decisions made by the obama clinton group have been absolutely disastrous. libya's in ruins. our ambassador and three other
really brave americans are dead, and isis has gained a new base of operations. syria is in the midst of a disastrous civil war. isis controls large portions of territory. refugee crisis now threatens europe and the united states. in egypt, terrorists have gained a foot hold in the sinai desert near the canal, one of the most essential waterways in the world. iraq is in chaos, and isis is on the loose. isis has spread across the middle east and into the west. in 2014, isis was operating in seven nations. they were in seven nations. terrible, but that's what it was. today, they're fully operational. in 18 countries with aspiring branches and six more for a total of 24, and many believe
that number is actually 28 to 30 countries. they don't even know. the situation is likely worse than the public has any idea. a new congressional report reveals that the administration has downplayed the growth of isis with 40% of analysts saying they have experienced efforts to manipulate their findings. they're trying to make it look much better than it is. it's bad. at the same time, isis is trying to infiltrate refugee flows into europe and to the united states. iran, the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, is now flush with $150 billion in cash released by the united states. plus -- if you remember from two weeks ago -- another 400 million in actual cash that was obviously used for ransom.
worst of all, the nuclear deal puts be iran, the number one state sponsor of radical islamic terrorism, on a path to nuclear weapons. in short, the obama clinton foreign postal has unleashed isis, destabilized the middle east, and put the nation of iran, which chants death to america, in a dominant position of regional power and, in fact, aspiring to be a dominant world power. it all began in 2009 with what has become known as president obama's global apology tour. we all remember. we all remember. [booing] in a series of speeches, president obama described america's arrogant, dismissive, and colonial power. he was describing us. he informed other countries
that he would be speaking up about america's past errors. he pledged that we would no longer be a senior partner that sought to dictate our terms. he lectured cia officers of the need to acknowledge their mistakes and described guantanamo bay as a rally. perhaps president obama's speech was to the muslim world delivered in cairo, egypt, 2009. i remember it well. in winning the cold war, president ronald reagan repeatedly touted the superiority of freedom and called the ussr the evil empire. yet when president obama delivered his address in cairo, no such moral courage could be found or would be found.
instead of condemning the oppression of women and gays and many muslim nations and the systematic violations of human rights or the financing of global terrorism, president obama tried to draw an equivalencecy between our human rights record -- and remember this, our human rights and theirs. the records are unbelievable and unmistakable. his naïve words were followed by even more naïve actions. the failure to establish a new status of forces agreement in iraq and the election-driven timetable for withdrawal surrendered our gains in that country and led directly to the rise of isis without question. [applause]
the failures in iraq were compounded by hillary clinton's disaster. total disaster in libya. president obama has since said that he regrets and really regrets libya and the mistake he made. he considers it his worst mistake. according to then secretary of defense robert gates, the invasion of libya was nearly a split decision. but hillar hillary clinton's forceful advocacy for the intervention was the deciding factor. that's why we went in. with one episode of bad judgment after another, hillary clinton's policies launched isis onto the world stage. yet as she through the middle east into violent turmoil, things turned out really to be not so hot for our world and our country, the middle east in particular.
that clinton's made almost $60 million in gross income while she was secretary of state. it is unbelievable. incident after incident proves again and again hillary clinton lacks the judgment as said by bernie sanders, stability and temperament and the moral character to lead our nation. [applause] importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face. not only in terrorism, but in trade and he have other challenge we must confront to
turn our great country around. [applause] it is now time for a new approach. our current strategy of nation building and regime change is a proven absolute failure. we have created the vacuums that allow terrorism to grow and thrive. i was at -- an opponent of the iraq war from the beginning. a major difference between me and my opponent. though, i was a private citizen whose person opinions on such matter were not sought, i nonetheless expressed my private doubts about the invasion. i was against. believe me. three months before the invasion, i said in an interview with neil cavuto, to
whom i offer my best wishes for a speedy recovery, quote perhaps we shouldn't be doing it yet and that the economy is a much bigger problem. in august of 2004, very early right after the conflict, i made a detailed statement to esquire magazine in an interview. here's the quote in full. look at the war in iraq and the mess we're in. i would never have handled it that way. this was right after the invasion. does anybody really believe that iraq is going to be a wonderful democracy where people are going to run down to the voting box and gently put in their ballot? and the winner is happily going to go and step up and leave the country? [applause] come on.
i then continued. two minutes after we leave, there's going to be a revolution, and the meanest, toughest, smartest, most vicious guy -- in this case guy -- will take over. and he'll have weapons of mass destruction, which saddam hussein did not have. what was the purpose of this whole thing? hundreds and hundreds of young people killed and what about the people coming back with no arms and no legs? not to mention in all fairness the other side. the tremendous damage done. all those iraqi kids who have been blown to pieces. and it turns out that all of the reasons for the war were blatantly wrong. all of this death and
destruction for nothing. so i've been clear for a long time that we should not have gone in. but i have been just as clear in saying what a catastrophic mistake hillary clinton and president obama made with the reckless way in which they pulled out. [applause] after we made those hard fought sacrifices and gains, we should have never made such a sudden withdrawal on a timetable advertised to our enemies. they said we're moving out. here's our time, here's our date, who would do this with incompetent president. [applause]
>> qaeda in iraq had been decimated and obama and clinton gaye it new life and allowed it to spread all across the world. by that same token, president obama and hillary clinton should never have been allowed to build a democracy in libya to push for immediate regime change in syria, or to support the overthrow of the bark in egypt. one more point on this. i have long said that we should have kept the oil in iraq. [applause] i said it over and over and over again. another area my judgment has been proven correct. i just said it so many times. virtually every time i was interviewed. keep the oil. keep the oil. according to cnn, isis made as much as 500 million in oil sales in 2014 alone.
that's before they really got started. fueling and funding its rain of terror. if we had controlled the oil, like i said we should, we could have prevented the rise of isis in iraq. both by cutting off a major source of funding, and through the presence of u.s. forces necessary to safeguard the oil and vital infrastructure products necessary for us to have the oil. i was saying this constantly and consistently to whoever would listen. i said keep the oil. keep the oil. keep the oil. don't let somebody else get it. [applause] if they had listened to me then, we would have had the economic benefits of the oil,
which i wanted to use to help take care of the wounded soldiers and families of those who died in the war. [applause] in addition to which thousands of lives would have been saved, this proposal by its very nature would have left soldiers in place of our assets. we would have had soldiers their guarding this valuable supply of oil. in the old days, when we won a war to the victor belonged the spoils. [applause] instead, all we got from iraq and our adventures in the middle east was death, destruction, and tremendous financial loss.
but it's time to put the mistakes of the past behind us and chart a new course. [applause] if i become president, the era of nation building will be brought to a very swift and decisive end. [applause] a new approach, which must be shared by both parties in america by our allies overseas and by our friends in the middle east, must be to hold the spread of radical islam. [cheers and applause] all actions should shared in this goal and any country which shares this goal will be our ally. very important. [applause]
some don't share this goal. we can always choose our friends, but we can never fail to recognize our enemies. [applause] as president, i will call for an international conference focused on this goal. we will work side by side with our friends in the middle east, including our greatest ally israel. [applause] we will partner with king abdul of jordan and president of egypt, and all others who recognize this ideology of death that must be extinguished. [applause] we will also work very closely with nato on this new
mission. i have previously said said it failed to adequately deal. since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats. very good. very, very good. i also believe that we can find common ground with russia in a fight against isis. wouldn't that be a good thing? wouldn't that be a good thing? [applause] they too have much at stake in the outcome in syria and have had their own battles with islamic terrorism just as bad as ours. they have a big, big problem in russia with isis. my administration will aggressively pursuit joint militarily operations to crush and destroy isis international corporation to cut off their
funding, expanded intelligence sharing, and cyber warfare to disable propaganda and their recruiting is taking place right now, and they're setting records. it's got to be stopped. [applause] we cannot allow the internet to be used as a recruiting tool and for other purposes by our enemy, we must shut down their access to this form of communication, and we must do it immediately. immediately. [applause] unlike hillary clinton, who has had so many lies with her careless handling of sensitive information, my administration will not telegram exactly military plans and what they
are. [cheers and applause] and, by the way, what's happened with her 33,000 e-mails is an absolute disgrace to the united states of america. [cheers and applause] [chanting "trump"] thank you. i've often said that the great general douglass and the great general george patton would be in a state of shock if they were alive today to see the way president obama and hillary clinton tried to recklessly announce every move they made before it happened
like they did in iraq so that the enemy can prepare and adapt. their enemy says thank you. the fight will not be limited to isis. we will decimate qaeda, and we will sk to starve funding. [applause] for iran back and. we can use security counsel regulations to apply new and even stronger sanctions. military, cyber, and financial warfare will all be necessary to dismantle islamic terrorism. but we must use ideological warfare as well. very important, and they use it on us better than we have ever thought of using it on
them, but that won't change. just as we won -- thank you. just as we won the cold war in part by exposing the evils of communism and the virtues of free markets, so too must we take on the ideology of radical islam. while my opponent accepted millions of dollars in foundations from countries where being gay is an offense punishable by prison or death, my administration will speak out against the oppression of women, gays, and people of different beliefs. [applause] our administration will be a friend to all moderate muslim reformers in the middle east and will amplify their voices. this includes speaking out against the horrible practice of honor killings where woman
are murdered for their relatives for dressing, or acting in a way that represents fundamentalist teachings. over 1,000 pakistani girls are estimated to be the victims of honor killings by their relatives each year. recently a prominent pakistani social media star was strangled to death by her brother on the charge of dishonoring the family. in his confession, the brother took pride in the murder and said girls are born to stay home and follow traditions. shockingly this is a practice that has reached our own shores. on such cases and many, many cases have happened, the one involves an iraqi immigrant who was sentenced to 34 years in jail for running over his own daughter, claiming she had been too westernized. to defeat islamic terrorism,
we must also speak out forcefully against a hateful ideology that provides the breeding ground for violence and it's a terrible, terrible breeding ground. a new immigration policy is needed immediately and as well -- [applause] the common thread linking the major islamic terrorist attacks that have recently occurred on our soil -- 9/11, the fort hood shooting, the boston bombing, the san bernardino attack, the orlando attack -- is that they have involved immigrants or the children of immigrants. clearly, new screening procedures are needed. [applause]
a review by the u.s. senate immigration subcommittee has identified 380 foreign-born individuals charged with terrorism or terrorism-related offenses between 9/11 and 2014 and many more since then. and this year is a record for identification. it's gotten worse, far worse. we also know that isisecruits refugees after their entrance into the country. as we have seen with the somali refugee population in minnesota. beyond terrorism, as we have also seen in france, foreign populations have brought their anti-semitic attitudes with them. in colon, germany, on new year's eve we have seen the reports of sexual violence assaults. pew polling shows many of the
countries, extreme views such as the death penalty and for those who are involved, the death penalty is very, very common if you don't have the faith that they demand you have. a trump administration will establish a clear principle that will govern all decisions pertaining to immigration. and we will be tough. and we will be even extreme. [applause] we should only admit into this country those who share our values and respect our people. in the cold war -- [applause] we had an ideological screening test. the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today. i call